SPECIAL GP - POSTPONED BY A WEEK

Munkhi · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Herts, England

Ok to points 3 and 4, I understand that. But points 1 and 2 are moot if finishing isn't taken into consideration, only position when time runs out. That way everyone plays in one race, and all the scorekeepers need do is get a screenshot of the result. It might work that way.

So will the handiloop groups be dynamic? For example, if player X starts in group 1 (the slow group on Thurs) and finishes very high a couple of weeks in a row, will they be shunted to group 2? If it's static from the start of the season then handiloop will suffer the same point 4 as tiering.
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mad · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject:

The handicap system will be totally dynamic... and even set by the players so that you could handicap yourself more to gain more points if you think you'll do well on a particular track.... A minimum handicap will be set for each racer so that you can't romp away in first every race and defeat the whole purpose of the handicaps. A racer consistantly winning by a long way will have their handicap increased etc etc.

evil_homer · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject:

if we have another special event run this way then i think the sosteve group should have the option of going in the middle group (even steve)
i was discussing the special event with Good Homer before the races and we both assumed we'd be in the middle tier (i even thought Little Deanio would be in the middle group) we're all of similar ability, Little Deanio beats me all the time on {prs}stadium and i usually have good battles with them both on all the servers were on and Good Homer has done 25 laps before.

turned out a good decision for Little Deanio as he put in a good effort considering it was his first 25 lap race (i nearly caught him though) but i think it might have affected Good Homers game

i know Good Homer may not have put in good lap times on the warm up as he kept changing his car before the start so maybe this was a factor in his group?

Munkhi · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Herts, England

mad · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:41 am Post subject:

The higher the handicap, the higher the points reward.....

The system has not been worked out yet.

HotSWAT · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:49 am Post subject:

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Munkhi · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Herts, England

If there's 2GPs per week that'd add up to 6 GPs. If you throw in warmups and stuff you'd be looking at most of the night being used up.

Again, tiers can work if done right... Rolling Eyes

But I am coming around to the handiloop system - now that there'll be points modifiers it doesn't just seem like punishment anymore Smile

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Bea · Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

HotSWAT · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

mad · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject:

yes, each GP track will be different and due to skill levels and style of racing, track length etc no single design of handicap loop will suite them all...
I'm thinking of a small formula for handicap loop sizes to reflect the length of a track and maybe we then also need a way to factor a tracks skill level. A trawl through the records should show the kinds of tracks where the skill gap is the greatest... we will not always get it right but if players can adjust their own handicap then it becomes a strategic war as well as a racing game Smile

evil_homer · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

having the tracks on the server only half an hour before the races must have made a difference. on the second track i jumped left by total accident on the practice, then decided it may be the faster way, it was certanly the easier for me. saw some people jumping right too

the second race i think you could of had it with no handiloops but were the elites couldn't use the cuts/alternate routes

Bea · Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

I watched someone take the alternative route when watching the replay for track 2 and it looked slower than the taking the loop since the jump after the loop kinda throws you round the corner anyway.

You *can* bug on the loop though so it balances out in some sense. Wink

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Dantski · Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 463

Here's 2 ideas.

1. Leave the GP season system as it is.

2. Replace solo cup with handicap races.

Thoughts?
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evil_homer · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject:

HotSWAT · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject:

msquires · Spam King Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 803

^^ ditto

Bea · Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

Spanky_McCoy · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject:

Bea · Joined: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 55

The race we did on Thursday is enough for me to make up my mind on what I thought about a handicap system. Smile

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